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Do u  htink Byakuya or Kenpachi has a better chance to defeat Ulquiorra?

Based on their condition after their respect HC battles or at full health. We''l keep it broad for a while.

Something I brought up to bonky and Urusai.

alright well...i think that kenpachi might be able to, it depends on the difference in strength from nnoitra to ulquiorra...since keeny could have taken nnoirta out in the beginning easily(or MORE easily) if he didnt mess around...but if he was serious he might be able to beat him. but he would prob. fool around since that is the way he is.

byakuya prob could take on ulquiorra if he lost the cocky attitude...he thinks that since he is of a noble family in SS that he is superior to all others...he wouldnt take ulquiorra seriously in the beginning either and he would wait until he has figured out that he is well matched and with a much lesser supply of power until he starts to fight for real.


so the main thing is: they would probably lose unless they lose some of their attitude and/or bad habits when dealing with enemies for the first time.

i agree and at the same time disagree cuz i think ichigo mite wnt 2 take care of ulquiorra..dnt noe if he can beat him since he nearly got owned by grimjaw...buh kenny n byakuya can diliver an ass wuppin 2 him..

edit:
speakin of possible fites who do u think wuld win in a fite between ichigo n kenny NOW??

i think that ichigo might mention that he got beat by ulquiorra and kenpachi would wanna fight him since he's just looking for the strongest opponent to fight...and that's basically his life goal: to get the ultimate fight, even if it costs him his life.

or someone might hit a bit of sense into him and tell him that ichigo isnt the enemy and if they get out, he could fight ichigo again.

Ichigo would beat Kenpachi at this point. I n Vizard form, though Ken would take him more seriously as an opponent.

Byakuya in a straight fight with Ulquiorra. Kido gives him a balance in the fight.

If Ulquiorra releases his zanpukto, we may have another story on our hands. Remember kids, he has just beat Ichies ass with out releasing his sword...

yea buh ichigo did sum damage in Vizard frm remember...plus he cudent hld the mask on 4 long at that time noww...he can hld it 4 [who noes how long the fite wit grimjaw was]...he mite jus win

i also agree because the first time that thay had a fight it ended up in a tie sense nether one die so now even if Kenny has been training i think that ichigo was a better progress because sense the last fight he did not have bankai and as we see kenny doesn't have it or get it sence then so that's a point for ichigo and he now has the Vizard form witch give him the power to go up head-to-head with power with kenny so i say it like this

Ichigo+bankai+vizard=kenny+pure power does not add up ichigo has progress too far for Kenny

good point. so you are saying ichigo is stronger than Kenpachi. therefore, he could also defeat Byakuya cause u said Kenny was stronger than Byakuya.

i dont think any capt without a dual zanpakto can compete with a espada 4 or higher. #5 took kenpachi to his limits and uli, honestly, is at a level that is just bonkers. he blocks icchy's attack and urahara's blast with just his bare hands.

uli already admitted in his scouting report that ichigo has a reasitu higher than his, so its not a question of 'can icchy beat uli', its more of 'will he be ready when the final fight comes'

Urahara is a completely diff level of powerful. He is in a gigai that reduces how much power he has in the real world.
Urahara could take Tousen and Ichimaru simultaneously. We have only seen a fraction of Urarhara's true strength.

I'm still not a %100 sure who will beat Aizen. Rather confused about who can beat his Hypnosis... Maybe the Kido Master can beat him?

I think one of the Captain Level Vizards (there are 4 Captain Class Vizards) can take Ulquiorra and the other top three Espada.

And then to add insult to injury in all his fights he all has use jest one hand for At and DF so you know that his not going all out

u noe if ulquiria is stronger than urahara n urahara can take ichimaru n toesen y is it that theye are aizens right and left hands...i mean i doubt it and plus u saw how tosen cut grimjows arm off barely trying imagin him really aiming to kill

Grimmjow is weak, though almost equal to Ichigo. Urahara, Captain Commander, Shunsui, Ukitake, The Top 3 Espada, and the Shop keep have levels of power we have yet to see.
Aizen is quite powerful also, but most of ability come from his use of hypnosis.

We haven't even seen the Vizards real strength yet either. They contolled Ichigo whilst Uigo (inner hollow) was in control with out even releasing their Shikai.

Think about it. Ichigo's resolve has kept him alive, but his lack of experience has hindered him.

It takes 10 years to master Bankai. Ichigo has had his for what? A possible two years or so.

And saying that he has only had it for two year ichigo has only maybe master 3/4 of his true bankai well the power any ways

correct, so the real smackdown is a comin

OK, so let me ask you guys this question. Before the recap on Hollowfication, there were 2 fights about to start. Which one are you anticipating more, Uli verses Ichigo or Aizen and his top 3 versus Cpt Commander and this top . .  whoever he brought with him.

Personally, I want to see the latter fight. Sure, I havent seen any of Uli's stuff and hes been in many of the episodes, but the latter fight is going to bring out a whole slew of new characters ive never seen in action. Oh man oh man . . . I cant wait!

well i allso would like to see the Cpt Commander and this top manly becuase i would like to see the Cpt Commander and his bankai again

Capt Commander released his Shikai, not Bankai. I think.

I wanna see the Vizards and Shunsui and Jushiro release... :)

im thinking the latter is the more probable since ichigo and the capt's in HM are tired from fights, so we move on aizen&co.and the vizards would def. join them after a little arguement maybe...i think the background that we just got isnt to throw us back into HM...were seeing those ppl whose pasts we saw in ACTION!

Ichigo will bust out randamly with Ulquiorra after the Main Fught gets started. It'll be a surprise ending in one of the AMnga's and we will have to wait like to weeks to get it.  8O

or mybe even longer

capt commander just opened up a can...

and they will be intertwining the 2 disparate stories apparently.

well  thats good to hear

And I was right... the Manga is on Hiatus...

so what about Hiatus is the story telling

wut in the world is Hiatus

 A Hiatus is when a girl cat kisses a boy dog and it makes a baby.  (:l

yaaaa not my something take i would like to see

Bonky, make sure you ask for a Dictionary for Xmas. Just in case u dont play ball in College.  8O

 :P im not wore about that becuase im starting PG for V and have skouts look for me so..... im readly for playin ball in College

it still might be good to type better or make better sentences/spell words correctly...

ya my gramer is kind of off alittle

wow...buh ut duz that got 2 do wit da mnga???im kinda lost cuz so far is jus been as woopin n hollows in karakura town

lighten up Axel, u guys are the ones confused by a word that qualifies at an 8th grade level. I was just joking.

ok axel...and let me spell it out for u...

1)haitus is when the writers get more time to write by not releasing a manga chapter the next week
2)haitus has NOTHING to do with animals at ALL
3)there will be NO new manga chapter this friday

any more questions?

If Rukia dies in the Filler Arc, where do babies come from?

???

rukia cant die in the filler arc since in the fillers, only filler characters can die...and babies come from the stork...duh...

OFFTOPIC-NESS!!!

 (:D What I'm here for.

Capt Commander is totally gonna kick some ass. And it seems the Manga will start leading toward Rukia's possible demise.  :'(

y? right now the only person i see in real danger is inoue...but rukia should be healed by hanatarou since he has a healing zanpaktou...and then he can kick some major ass with it after he heals ppl! its 1337

lol, how can anyone possibly suggest Rukia might die if they are reading the manga?


and yes, can we try to write a little bit better? Some of you guys either do no speak English as your first language (which is perfectly fine) or are just atrocious at spelling =/

My second language is "inbred redneck" but I live in GA. Ooohh NASCAR....  8O
Special racin woo wee.. shoot me.

So I am wondering when Rukia will finally release her Bankai. Her death is inevitable, people love her just enough for it to be a sad and great moment for bleach after 5 years.

wow...i got triked...zombire got me...i really thought haitus was sumthin wit an animal ...i musta sounded dum but ok i get it n i wasnt confused with the no episode bit...thnx for clearin things up thoe... and i dnt think rukia shud die i mean 4 real thats sumthin else i doubt that bleach will be the same without her

well the only reason i would see her death being forseen is the new title of the 3rd bleach movie which is "Goodbye, Rukia" but it's a movie so it shouldnt have any effect on the actual storyline

We have to wait and see... Until next August. Sometime bein ahead of the curve sux.

im hoping it will show befor my B-Day becuase in well not be home if week to see it

3rd Bleach Movie get released in Japan in Dec. We don't even have access to the 2nd one yet.

thats a bore

I know, what dont even know what happened with Diamond Dust Rebellion, but they probably had the memories erased at the end.  8O

Uli / Ichigo Fight is about to get down.

I'm confused though, Kenpachi put the beat down on Nnoitra.

Any one think he could own Ulquiorra?

well uli is higher ranked than nnoitra. just because he is only 1 above doesnt mean that he doesnt have to be a lot more powerful than nnoitra. like he could be a little stronger or insanely stronger...we havent seen him for real yet...

and this is def. going on between ichigo and uli...kenpachi isnt coming to save the day again i hope

defenitly i dnt wnt him interfering again....and i think ichigo cud take nnoitra...is jus he got ichigo wile he was dwn

maybe...nnoitra is the next number up and he needed a lot of help from inoue(mentally) to beat him even in vizard form...

nnoitra might have been too strong for him...

well ichigo did need help mentally but still i think he wudent have needed it if he didnt take that 5 bullets to the bak in the fite PRoTECTING inoue...that really brote him dwn cuz he was revin it up man

well that's one of the setbacks about being the good guy...if he didnt care about inoue, he wouldnt be in HM...

and that WAS good strategy from grimmjow's point of view...

i dnt think grimjow stratigized it...since he probly wnted ichigo full streighnth on his own not weakend....i think ichigo jus dodged and THEN noticed it was in the way of inoue aswell....nice trik by the creator...

 8O ... yep, I alos think Orihime is way stronger than we think at this point.
Based on Sados increase in power.

So, who's gonna beat Tousen and Gin?

We all know Capt Cammander and Hitsugaya want Aizen's ass.

I think Ukitake and Jushiro will take Tousen and Gin...

i think Hitsugaya  is the weakest captian . . . but do remember the vizards arent at all happy with aizen. and Urahara as well.


But i find Aizen's comment when cpt commander trapped him in the fire, 'this fight will be over without us having to do anything' to be really interesting. Aizen knows everyone's powers and says this . . . tells you a lot of the top 3 espadas!

like what about them

theyre REALLY strong...and i think that hitsugaya is the weakest because he has yet to master his attacks(namely his bankai's limted amount of uses...

I think he has more prowess than u give him credit for.

Also we get to see Urahara's true power.

I wanna see Jushiro personally. Since he casually beat down Sado in the SS storyline.

I think those top two Captains could probably take Ichigo.

i guess i just dont like him cuz he was in those episodes with ikkaku, matsumoto and ayasegawa and they were random as heck...i dont like any of them now  (:l

Hater...

I guess not everyone is as cool as Gin. But he gonna die

OFFTOPIC:but theyre both in harmony in my AnimeList sig

OFFTOPIC:is it the middle finger hitsi is pointing

maybe...i dont really care so yea...

and i think that we got offtopic too much...

anything else to say?

or i will lock...

Hes totally givin that creepy Furry Gin thing the finger.

before u lock it, though i personally think this thread could stretch well.

yea, definitely no need to lock it especially when we're about to start the Winter war

thats true this could be a continues thred cuz we noe ppl are gunna b intrested in makin possible fite guesses so new threds like it will b made if its closed...and now that the manga ep is about 2 b released 2day or 2maro

ok fine...

but do u guys have anything else to talk about? besides offtopic posts...

Is Inoue stronger than we think. I think she learned some new tricks from the Kido Lt guy.

yea she did she learned she cud bring things bak without any remains of it...plus she was attack training wit rukia n she was actually putin up a fite...rite b4 she got taken by uli

yea while ichigo was getting vizard training, all the others were training in one way or another...

so they all have gotten a LOT better since the last time...

ummm yea that wen chad learned 2 controle his atack arm

do the think that with shad's new power that he could take the #15 Espada or someone in the range of power

Sado is not strong enough quite yet but he's def stronger. Might give Jushiro a work out now. (As opposed to gettin pwnd)

Inoue pwnd Ichigo when he tried to get up during the Nnoitra fight.

And.d.d.d... The 4th seat captain scared off those Exequias guys with her presence.

man i was really lookin for other good for between chad and an Espada well the weak ones at less

the espada go from #1-10...

the privaron espada are #100-110 i think...

there is no #15

well then the privaron espada

he did fight a priviron espada and won with out putting a fight almost althope he was gettin owned at first wile he was figuering wut was rong wit his powers....

I hate to chat about what will happen in anime because most of the time people interpret what they see to their liking. No one will ever agree on who is stronger or weaker even when the fight already happened. Anyways my two cents is that Kenpachi pwns :D.

yes i been said the Kenpachi killbut right now what if chad had a fight with an privaron espada that power mainly fight moves like the last privaron espada that he fought

well i think that the battles with the privaron r over...they have to move on to the espada...i REALLY think that chad will end up fighting with yammi since he seems more of the type to fight him since yammi is more of the bulky muscular type like chad is...and he is like one of the only espada left...

yea he prolly will..ichigo took off yammis arm like nuthin so i think chad cud take him now...cuz b4 his arm got severed

well i mean b4 chad didnt have a good control of his powers...now he has a good knowledge and use of his power...he could prolly take a reg. yammi

and remember all the top 3 espada have the servants.

i think that they ALL do right? since nnoitra had that girl that turned into that huge hollowlike thing...

but ulquiorra didnt seem to have any...

I think Nnoitra side kick was a feminine guy.  8O

All the top espadas have Assistants.

yea i think it would be the top 5 but uli just didnt want any...

i thought those 2 grls grimjow beat the snot outa were his

i think those were just random servents of aizen...

Dont aizen control what the espada look like or is it random.But more importantly dont he control the  Strong that thay get because if he dose it means that he could make them all to his level.?Or close to it to give his a better army of espada's

i dont think he can control what they look like...and the strength of the espada, or arrancar in general depends on the strength of the hollow that removed its mask...

do you think that if grimjow or the #4 espada or #3 espada was to fight gin do you think that thay would be able to kill him

well i dont think that we have enough information...since we havent seen ulquiorra fight for real yet and we dont even know for sure who the #3 is...

and plus, gin owns  (:l

yea 4 sure i think gin is stronger than tousen and tousen cud cut grimjows arm faster than grimjow noticed

Should be interesting...

What ya gonna do if Gin, Tousen and Aizen all bust out Vizard Masks?

exclaim. in the middle of the night. if i am reading it at night.

 8O

That would be a most excellent twist.

OFFTOPIC: gin, aizen and tousen r in mah siggy! i didnt feel like skipping their squads and i couldnt find any amagai renders

Do we even know if Aizen, gin and tousen did hollowification to themselves yet?

okay for possible fights we have 5 confermed
the 4 eleit soiulders of SS vs 4 faccious of moustachs(Barragan) 4 fraccion
Ichigo vs emo(Ulquiorra)

other fights I think we will see is
A rematch between Gin and Toshiro with Matsumoto in the background feeling sorry for herself
Halible vs Soi Fon with Yourichi stepping in if Soi Fon losses
Stark will hopfully fight Shunsui
I Tousen proply against Komamura
Jushiro will take on Barragan
and Aizen will fight everone eles and proply Win

Emo?! C'mon... why just call ONE person names? I'm sure you can call all the other people you mentioned names too. lol jk w/e

This seems like a very good prediction, nice job. But I'm gonna have to disagree on one point and say that Barragan will fight Yamamoto not Jushiro. Aizen will just sit around watching lol, secretly making plans/strategies.
I'm also wondering what role the Vizards will play in the fight. Maybe they'll be interfering with the shinigamis and attack the espada, so it's Vizards vs Espada which would be very interesting... but then what would the shinigami do? We'll see...

I called two of m names.

The only person I can not think of for fighting is Hamhock(Yammy) I want to see him fight Chad

Kinda hard to see; Chad and the others are stuck in HM. Maybe Urahara and vizards will help them get out. Hamhock is Yammy's fraccion?

Hamhock is whay I call Yammy

The proplem with who Hamhock is going to fight is we have not seen him for almoost a year. I think he is still in HM.

Vizards rule....  (:D

Save the day...

Urahara crushes Barragan cause he a bad ass.

i think they might help out more after things get ugly for the gotei 13. maybe they underestimate them or something

I'm excited...  (:D

cant wait on this end... ;D

why do u call him that? I thought he was wiped out...

who now ???

i'm confuzzled  8O

my bad  :-P ^^^^^ i meant that..

who is yama going to fight again ???

I thought yammy was wiped out...

yama gotta fight barragan.

but urban was saying that we havent seen him in over a year...and weve seen barragan recently

We just saw Barragan, well his official introduction atleast.

 :'( I don't think my question was clear.

Was Yammy killed at prior battles??

nvm coz I already got the answer from somewhere else... so his part is on hiatus lol.

heh, maybe that kid espada will fight Urahara.. rematch. It'd be nice.

i dont think that wonderwise is an espada...he doesnt have a number...

but i think that he is a special arrancar since he was made with the hyogoku and when he fought urahara b4 urahara was suprised about something that wonderwise did

Wonderwise is #6...

no...that would be grimmjow

I thought he was given a number after Grimmjow lost his arm...

no...luppi took his spot and then he took it back once inoue healed him