Kurosaki Isshin (くろさき いっしん)?

[IRDrunk]

Also did anybody to compound on the previous theories when Ishhen and Masaki had Ichigo then Ichigo inherited powers from both parents.  We already know that most humans that have powers that are most like the hollow's powers.  So it would make sense then that Ichigo got his shinigami power from his father and his hollow power from his mother.  He's probably one of the very few "pure" (meaning born that way) vaizards.  That could also make him stronger than the rest of the artificial vaizards.   

Also on a side note anybody figure out what the grudge Urahara had against Ishhen was that he wanted revenge for?

[UrbanWolf]

Also did anybody to compound on the previous theories when Ishhen and Masaki had Ichigo then Ichigo inherited powers from both parents.  We already know that most humans that have powers that are most like the hollow's powers.  So it would make sense then that Ichigo got his shinigami power from his father and his hollow power from his mother.  He's probably one of the very few "pure" (meaning born that way) vaizards.  That could also make him stronger than the rest of the artificial vaizards.   

Also on a side note anybody figure out what the grudge Urahara had against Ishhen was that he wanted revenge for?

humans have Hollow powers ? Chad has hollow powers, Orihime has reality altering powers,  Uryu has Quincy powers, and Don Kanonji has sprit mediem powers

Ichigo's hollow powers came from step two Of Urahara's training, the shattered chain.

[IRDrunk]

Ichigo's hollow powers came from the hollow inside him.  Urahara just taught him how to use them same as he did the vizards.  The reason why i say that humans have access to hollow powers is because ultimately hollows come from human souls who die violent or sad deaths.  I might be wrong but there's nothing in the manga's so far that I can see that proves me totally wrong.  Yes people have different types of powers thats not to say that uryu and orihime powers dont come from the same place.  They could just be manifesting themselves differently.

[UrbanWolf]

Your logic is flawed
Wholes that do not become hollows, that get Konsol from a shimigami, go to SS where they can become Shimgami themselve
Souls that die in SS are reborn as humens in the Living world.
Hollow and Shimgami have the same orgins
Uryu's Quincy powers are the opposite of Shimgami powers
Shimgami powers come from with in Drawing on there SP to make a Zanpukto
Quincy powers instead come from drawing Sprit partical around them and froming weapons.

This is also getting off topic

if Masaki was indeed humen, witch has not been porven one way or the other(although I belive she was)
Ichigo got no Special hollow power from her.

[shinigamihollow]

Oh boy a thinker
 
you first theory witch I will hace to call theory 3 plays into one of my favorite Ishhin theorys (witch we can call theory 5)

That Isshin was Captin of Squad 10 around 20 years before the story started, on a mission to the living world he fell in love with Masaki
who either saw him in a gigia or she could see Sprits and told him he looked cool when he smoked. Isshin as a captin knows that the traitor Urahara lives nearby goes to him get specil Gigia and starts a family.

As I said this is my favorite theory, my real proplem with it is that although there is no evidance againt it there is also no evidence for it
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masaki couldnt see spirits we know that because when she died she couldnt see the lure that ichigo could if you remember she asked him where he was going and couldnt see the spirit

[BeholdTheTruth]

OBVIOUSLY ISSHIN IS A CAPTAIN, BY HIS ROBE, BUT HIS ROBE IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE'S AND MUST BE OF HIGH POWER BECAUSE WHEN ICHIGO FEELS HIS SPIRITUAL PRESSURE HE'S SAYS TO HIMSELF WHAT INCREDIBLE REIATSU, I'M THINKING HE HAS TO BE OF SQUAD ZERO, OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT. GUARDIAN MAYBE ? FOR ICHIGO? TO ASSURE HE REACHES HIS FULL POTENTIAL OF POWER SO HE CAN WHATEVER IT IS HE WAS BORN TO DO

[traviS`]

OBVIOUSLY ISSHIN IS A CAPTAIN, BY HIS ROBE, BUT HIS ROBE IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE'S AND MUST BE OF HIGH POWER BECAUSE WHEN ICHIGO FEELS HIS SPIRITUAL PRESSURE HE'S SAYS TO HIMSELF WHAT INCREDIBLE REIATSU, I'M THINKING HE HAS TO BE OF SQUAD ZERO, OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT. GUARDIAN MAYBE ? FOR ICHIGO? TO ASSURE HE REACHES HIS FULL POTENTIAL OF POWER SO HE CAN WHATEVER IT IS HE WAS BORN TO DO

I agree w/ that but there was no need for all caps. I also think he has a lot more powers than we are giving him credit for. He took out teh grand fisher (or w/e its called) in a single blow while ichigo was fleeing. And urahara still makes the comment thats he's "getting" his powers back, but doesnt completely have their full potential.

[UrbanWolf]

Kon was fleeing not Ichigo

[UrusaiBaka]

OBVIOUSLY ISSHIN IS A CAPTAIN, BY HIS ROBE, BUT HIS ROBE IS DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE'S AND MUST BE OF HIGH POWER BECAUSE WHEN ICHIGO FEELS HIS SPIRITUAL PRESSURE HE'S SAYS TO HIMSELF WHAT INCREDIBLE REIATSU, I'M THINKING HE HAS TO BE OF SQUAD ZERO, OR SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT. GUARDIAN MAYBE ? FOR ICHIGO? TO ASSURE HE REACHES HIS FULL POTENTIAL OF POWER SO HE CAN WHATEVER IT IS HE WAS BORN TO DO

Please don't use all caps...it's annoying