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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 10:39:36 PM »


he may have a bankai. he never denied having one, just that what he used was his shikai.

If you are talking about Aya... I gotta stand by my first observation. No way does he have Bankai. Ichigo couldn't attain it until he let go his childish ways. Same with Renji. I seriously doubt Bankai is going to manifest to someone with Aya's shallow mentality.

Thing is a lot of people may see Aya's Shikai as weak or boring. But it's got the most potential to destroy as any I have ever seen. And thats just the initial release. Used right... it has the actual potential in it's initial release to beat a Bankai if you really think of what it does. Thats a little scary actually.

then i must object. my counter point is that bankai has nothing to do with maturity, but desire and skill to develop into a better fighter.

btw, before I even go further, I just want to say that I was saying that he MAY have bankai, but he doesnt say in the episode that he does or doesnt, just that what he used was his shakai


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Actually bankai does have a lot to do with maturity and where the desire to fight stems from. It's why Zaraki can't use it. He has not found the confidence in his spiritual partner (what I perceive bankai to be)  to work in a mature partnership with it. Ichigo managed to realize that need and Zangetsu answered. I think we can all agree that (esp after his fight with Ichi) Zaraki has a VERY strong desire to be stronger and fight. Yet still he can not use Bankai.

Bankai has a strong spiritual element to it. Aya doesn't have it. You are right... they don't say he "doesn't" have it... but it most definitely does not follow that he does If he ends up having it I think that will be the biggest plot twist in the last 60 chaps at least.

Now Hisagi may have it.. or attain it very soon. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 09:21:19 AM »

i thought bankai was a result of the bonding you did with your zompakto. thats why zengetsu said he didn't like it when it rains and as you become one with your zompakto you gain more power thus the change in outfits.  but away from that i think that the espada is going to take the thorns away and the other guy is gonna unrelease and then they are gonna fight then he's gonna come to a realization and release again and kick some butt
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« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2008, 05:34:24 PM »

I agree. It may not be likely that Ayasegawa has bankai because of his mediocre relationship with his zanpakutou. He always turns it into a 5-blade zanpak, which the zanpakutou despise. So there's little or no bonding at all with his zanpakutou.

Plus he rarely uses his real shikai, so if he doesn't practice it much, how much less practice for bankai? Lol if he's trying to pull off a combat-type bankai, just like his combat-type shikai.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2008, 05:40:11 PM »

he has a comletely NON combat style zanpaktou...it isnt used to combatting...
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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2008, 05:45:31 PM »

he has a comletely NON combat style zanpaktou...it isnt used to combatting...

he makes it a combat style zanpakutou even if it doesn't like it. the 5 blades remember?
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